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Success has seasons, and your business should too. That is the idea Karen Cooper is selling in this episode of She Sells He Sells: Ideas Worth Buying, and after 24 years in real estate, she has lived every single one of them.
Karen’s argument is this: we readily accept that our lives have natural seasons, but we refuse to acknowledge that our businesses do too. We think we have to keep doing things the way we did five, ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. That’s not how it works, and pretending otherwise is a fast track to real estate agent burnout.
She would know. Ten years into her career, with three young children at home, a husband working shift work as a career fireman, and 50 to 60 home sales a year, Karen was running with her hair on fire. She remembers standing on the porch at her son’s birthday party, on the phone with an upset seller, watching her life unfold in front of her without actually participating in it. Her first attempt at a fix – trading production for a managing broker role, the “traditional” next step in real estate – turned out to be a colossal mistake. She traded one version of burnout for another.
What actually changed everything was becoming open: open to what her business could look like, open to what this career could look like, open to redefining success as more than a number. That openness led to founding Empowering Women in Real Estate, a community that started as a free Facebook group 12 years ago and now includes over 42,000 women in real estate across the industry.
Karen and Krista get into what it takes to let go of the version of success you’ve worked so hard to build, why “I don’t know the answer, but I can point you to someone who does” is the ultimate confidence, how to step off the speeding train of making more money to fund a bigger life that requires making more money, and the question to ask yourself when you don’t even know what season you’re in anymore.
If you are a real estate agent, a business owner, or anyone who only knows success as more – more clients, more volume, more everything – this one is for you.
IN THIS EPISODE
[0:00] Welcome — Karen Cooper and the idea worth buying [0:11] The Sell: success has seasons and your business should too [1:03] The Story: a pharma layoff, a for-sale-by-owner deal, and the start of 24 years in real estate [2:32] The MLS on a disc: what the industry looked like before social media [3:35] What Karen attributes her success to — consistency, the basics, and becoming open [5:36] The colossal mistake: burnout, three young kids, 50-60 homes a year, and the managing broker detour [7:00] Watching your life unfold from the porch — the birthday party phone call [8:34] The epiphany and what came next [11:06] The friction of letting go when you’re a driven achiever [13:55] “I don’t know, but I can point you to someone who does” — the ultimate confidence [15:05] Empowering Women in Real Estate: from free Facebook group to 42,000+ women [18:33] What it means for success itself to have seasons [20:47] The speeding train: bigger income, bigger life, and how to step off [23:57] Living your values out loud on social media — morning coffee and bare feet over high heels [26:26] The Solution: one concrete first step for anyone who only knows success as more [30:21] To the woman who’s scared to walk away from what she built [31:19] The question to ask when you don’t know what season you’re in [33:05] All about the [CONFERENCE NAME] — where Krista is speaking [35:13] How to connect with Karen and join the community
KEY QUOTE
“It’s not just success in terms of numbers. It’s also success in terms of personal fulfillment. And I think that is really the key.” — Karen Cooper
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
Empowering Women in Real Estate — Karen’s community of 42,000+ women in the real estate industry 6th Annual Empowering Women in Real Estate Conference September 29-30, 2026 Dulles, VA Register here: www.empoweringwomeninrealestate.com/conference-2026
Connect with Karen: Website: www.empoweringwomeninrealestate.com Instagram: @karen.w.cooper Facebook Community: Empowering Women in Real Estate
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